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		<title>By: Dino</title>
		<link>http://wausaublog.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/and-thats-a-wrap/#comment-4351</link>
		<dc:creator>Dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 19:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry,

I think that the institutionalized arts are one thing, and I think the street level arts are another thing all together.  

I believe that for a city of this size, the arts are someething that has been put in the bigger rooms.  And for the most part, those are static forms.

I seek the more challenging things.  The things that the benefactors might cringe at.  Those things.

I believe that they exist, in some form, but am unsure as to why people seem to hide their artistic sensibilities.

My snobbery might be getting in the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry,</p>
<p>I think that the institutionalized arts are one thing, and I think the street level arts are another thing all together.  </p>
<p>I believe that for a city of this size, the arts are someething that has been put in the bigger rooms.  And for the most part, those are static forms.</p>
<p>I seek the more challenging things.  The things that the benefactors might cringe at.  Those things.</p>
<p>I believe that they exist, in some form, but am unsure as to why people seem to hide their artistic sensibilities.</p>
<p>My snobbery might be getting in the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://wausaublog.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/and-thats-a-wrap/#comment-4347</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 15:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to reconcile this comment in Bill&#039;s final paragraph with what Dino has said:

&quot;It is true that Wausau has a tremendous arts community, including such wonderful institutions such as the Leigh Yawkey-Woodson Art Museum, The Center for the Visual Arts, the Wausau Conservatory of Music, Wausau Dance Theater and many others. &quot; 

It doesn&#039;t make sense to me...what am I missing?

cheers, Barry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to reconcile this comment in Bill&#8217;s final paragraph with what Dino has said:</p>
<p>&#8220;It is true that Wausau has a tremendous arts community, including such wonderful institutions such as the Leigh Yawkey-Woodson Art Museum, The Center for the Visual Arts, the Wausau Conservatory of Music, Wausau Dance Theater and many others. &#8221; </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t make sense to me&#8230;what am I missing?</p>
<p>cheers, Barry</p>
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		<title>By: Dino</title>
		<link>http://wausaublog.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/and-thats-a-wrap/#comment-4207</link>
		<dc:creator>Dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that Barry.

What I want to find is the creative types to write about.  I am looking, all day long. 

I get the &quot;Were hiding&quot; vibe.  Or the we do not trust the paper thing.  

I just want to write about people, celebrate creativity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that Barry.</p>
<p>What I want to find is the creative types to write about.  I am looking, all day long. </p>
<p>I get the &#8220;Were hiding&#8221; vibe.  Or the we do not trust the paper thing.  </p>
<p>I just want to write about people, celebrate creativity.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://wausaublog.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/and-thats-a-wrap/#comment-4201</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 13:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man Dino, I could name a dozen cats off the top of my head in this town who are intensely creative...deviously skilled in their arts and true lovers of beauty...haven&#039;t you come across them in your travels?  
Barry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man Dino, I could name a dozen cats off the top of my head in this town who are intensely creative&#8230;deviously skilled in their arts and true lovers of beauty&#8230;haven&#8217;t you come across them in your travels?<br />
Barry</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Hughes</title>
		<link>http://wausaublog.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/and-thats-a-wrap/#comment-4092</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 07:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dino,
   The only reason I cared in the first place was because I&#039;ve known you to be a true believer in supporting local music.  I want to make you live the life you sing about, as the gospel singers say, and I expect nothing less from you to me.  We&#039;re all in this together, after all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dino,<br />
   The only reason I cared in the first place was because I&#8217;ve known you to be a true believer in supporting local music.  I want to make you live the life you sing about, as the gospel singers say, and I expect nothing less from you to me.  We&#8217;re all in this together, after all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Rosenberg</title>
		<link>http://wausaublog.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/and-thats-a-wrap/#comment-4085</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if we&#039;re going to have &quot;The Airing of Grievances&quot;, then it only follows that we should also have &quot;Feats of Strength&quot; to maintain the true spirit and tradition of Festivus.  But I will leave it for the group to decide.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if we&#8217;re going to have &#8220;The Airing of Grievances&#8221;, then it only follows that we should also have &#8220;Feats of Strength&#8221; to maintain the true spirit and tradition of Festivus.  But I will leave it for the group to decide.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dino</title>
		<link>http://wausaublog.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/and-thats-a-wrap/#comment-4084</link>
		<dc:creator>Dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am obviously smarter than this, and I am assuming the curmudgeonly role.  But the fact is why not hold local cats to high standards?

I can name 5.  Jeff Janikowski, Tom Jordan, Cole Holiday, Jeff Sandbom, Andy Zynda.

In my defense, I was on unisom, waiting for sleep.  And there was the letter incident.

I do not think I trashed local music in the Lucky Stiffs post, I reread it and it was one direct sentence.

But again, thanks for expecting more of me Charles.  You have the ear to expect that, and for me not to challenge you to the Festivus Rites of Strength.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am obviously smarter than this, and I am assuming the curmudgeonly role.  But the fact is why not hold local cats to high standards?</p>
<p>I can name 5.  Jeff Janikowski, Tom Jordan, Cole Holiday, Jeff Sandbom, Andy Zynda.</p>
<p>In my defense, I was on unisom, waiting for sleep.  And there was the letter incident.</p>
<p>I do not think I trashed local music in the Lucky Stiffs post, I reread it and it was one direct sentence.</p>
<p>But again, thanks for expecting more of me Charles.  You have the ear to expect that, and for me not to challenge you to the Festivus Rites of Strength.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Hughes</title>
		<link>http://wausaublog.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/and-thats-a-wrap/#comment-4082</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of response is that?  Why don&#039;t you name &quot;five cats&quot; in any other city of Wausau&#039;s size (or bigger, for that matter) that you consider &quot;highly creative?&quot;  Believe me, if you&#039;re judging by Sun Ra, Ornette Coleman or The Beatles, you ain&#039;t gonna find many...

That&#039;s not even the point, Dino.  You&#039;re supposed to be one of Wausau&#039;s arts mavens, somebody who cares and knows deeply about local music.  As this blog describes you, you are &quot;passionate about the people and places of his hometown and it shows.&quot;  You worked at a community radio station (which I hope returns), and you&#039;ve booked a wide variety of music around the era.  You&#039;re also, I point out again, the main music critic for the city&#039;s supposedly &quot;alternative&quot; weekly, and you&#039;ve written extensively, and quite positively, about a variety of local bands.

And yet, between this comment and your previous entry, &quot;Music Is A Restorative Art,&quot; you&#039;ve displayed real, disturbing contempt for the very musicians whom you (supposedly) support and who - indirectly - pay at least part of your salary.   Here you slam them for what you call their lack of &quot;creativity,&quot; which is quite interesting coming from somebody who - as far as I know - is not a musician.   In the previous post, you also trashed the very idea of &quot;local music,&quot; which once again makes me wonder how and why you can come up with all the praise  you lavish upon local bands in the CITY PAGES.

Given your disdainful remarks concerning Wausau&#039;s music scene, which - as I said - hold local bands up to ridiculously high standards (Sun Ra, Ornette, Sonic Youth), I can&#039;t understand why any local band would want to have anything to do with you or your opinions.  

I&#039;m sorry if this sounds harsh, and I may very well be overreacting, but I get angrier and angrier the more I reflect on the style and substance of this mean-spirited post.   I&#039;d like to think that you&#039;re smarter, and more soulful, than this, Dino, and it hurts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of response is that?  Why don&#8217;t you name &#8220;five cats&#8221; in any other city of Wausau&#8217;s size (or bigger, for that matter) that you consider &#8220;highly creative?&#8221;  Believe me, if you&#8217;re judging by Sun Ra, Ornette Coleman or The Beatles, you ain&#8217;t gonna find many&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not even the point, Dino.  You&#8217;re supposed to be one of Wausau&#8217;s arts mavens, somebody who cares and knows deeply about local music.  As this blog describes you, you are &#8220;passionate about the people and places of his hometown and it shows.&#8221;  You worked at a community radio station (which I hope returns), and you&#8217;ve booked a wide variety of music around the era.  You&#8217;re also, I point out again, the main music critic for the city&#8217;s supposedly &#8220;alternative&#8221; weekly, and you&#8217;ve written extensively, and quite positively, about a variety of local bands.</p>
<p>And yet, between this comment and your previous entry, &#8220;Music Is A Restorative Art,&#8221; you&#8217;ve displayed real, disturbing contempt for the very musicians whom you (supposedly) support and who &#8211; indirectly &#8211; pay at least part of your salary.   Here you slam them for what you call their lack of &#8220;creativity,&#8221; which is quite interesting coming from somebody who &#8211; as far as I know &#8211; is not a musician.   In the previous post, you also trashed the very idea of &#8220;local music,&#8221; which once again makes me wonder how and why you can come up with all the praise  you lavish upon local bands in the CITY PAGES.</p>
<p>Given your disdainful remarks concerning Wausau&#8217;s music scene, which &#8211; as I said &#8211; hold local bands up to ridiculously high standards (Sun Ra, Ornette, Sonic Youth), I can&#8217;t understand why any local band would want to have anything to do with you or your opinions.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry if this sounds harsh, and I may very well be overreacting, but I get angrier and angrier the more I reflect on the style and substance of this mean-spirited post.   I&#8217;d like to think that you&#8217;re smarter, and more soulful, than this, Dino, and it hurts.</p>
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		<title>By: Dino</title>
		<link>http://wausaublog.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/and-thats-a-wrap/#comment-4081</link>
		<dc:creator>Dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Name five cats in town that are highly creative</description>
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		<title>By: Charles Hughes</title>
		<link>http://wausaublog.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/and-thats-a-wrap/#comment-4078</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Dino: you&#039;re talking out your butt.  Given that you write (quite lovingly) about local music in CITY PAGES every week, I must admit that I&#039;m amazed at how dismissive, snobby and (frankly) *mean* your recent music-based posts on the WausauBlog have been.  

I&#039;m not saying Wausau&#039;s a musical Shangri-La by any means, but I think you&#039;re out of line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Dino: you&#8217;re talking out your butt.  Given that you write (quite lovingly) about local music in CITY PAGES every week, I must admit that I&#8217;m amazed at how dismissive, snobby and (frankly) *mean* your recent music-based posts on the WausauBlog have been.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying Wausau&#8217;s a musical Shangri-La by any means, but I think you&#8217;re out of line.</p>
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